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Duck’s Food and My Food, Should We All Be Gluten Free ?

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August 2013, 7

Hi, GFS! 

I went on what I thought was Gluten-Free in the 1990.  I found I had the Candida Yeast Syndrome and became allergic to all the food I was use to eating.  I tested each food and came back with severe reactions.  So, I turned my diet completely up-side-down.  My world turned around.  Lost all my weight and had energy too.  I was eating only rice, beans, veggies and fish.  My world crashed when I came down with a Electrical Hyper-Sensitivity (EHS or ES).  I was a Software Engineer and had to walk away from my much loved booming career.

I then started living in my house like a modern day hermit.  I started to raise ducks for good clean eggs and meat for myself.  It soon sprung into a Internet business of selling duck eggs to others like myself with chicken/egg allergies.

I suffer so much daily because of my EHS, it can paralyse me or totally numb parts of my body for weeks at a time.  It gives me trouble walking, talking or moving without some kind of pain. 

I have been thinking for years, of how, with such a clean diet I had failed.  Now I see that it could have been the rice and other so called gluten free grains, and those hidden grains.

Now my problem is what do I do with the ducks?  Their feed is mostly corn and grain.  It's going to be very hard to find Grain Free feed for them so I don't get exposed to the grains from handling it.  I Free-Range them, but they need more protein and nutrition to lay eggs for me and others to eat.

Please, help!

Sara

MamaDuck

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Welcome!  Thanks for joining us.  Your story is very interesting.  

How many ducks do you have? 

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Jean,

Right now I have 33 ducks.  Since it's Spring, there are more on the way. 

I am curently trying to find our what I could use to feed them if not grains.  I may have to give them all up.  I am sure I'm not the only one with poultry or barn animals.  What do other people do? 

Even gloves and a mask is not enough, I'm handling their food all the time, in all types of weather.

I am grateful for your web site!

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Call Blackwing Farms in Illinois.  I believe they use a flax based feed.

Birds can eat seeds.  It is part of their diet, however; birds staple food is a combination of bugs, insects, worms, berries and other fruits, and grasses.  Birds are not vegetarians.

All the best,

Dr. OSmile

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Dr. O,

I checked with Blackwing Farms and they said that all of their poultry are fed Corn and Soy Bean.  I was surprised too!

Ducks have a slightly higher protein diet then other birds, I will check with the nation's expert, David Holderread, from Holderread Farms in OR, for a Grain-Free diet.  I'll let you know what I find out.

Thank you!

Sara

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I just called US Wellness Meats and they feed their chickens Corn and Soy Beans, too.

I am still tyring to find out about grain-free feeds for my ducks and will get back to you when I do.

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I am very interested in this as I have been trying to determine if grains fed to the animals actually causes grain to be in the meat?  I haven't found anything that confirms this, not sure if anyone really knows.  But it seems that if even Wellness meats are fed corn and soy…….hmmm, good 'food for thought'.  I would like to get Dr. O's response to this.  I know grass fed beef, free range chicken, and wild caught salmon is still healthier due to the higher quality meats (better nutritional content), but just wondering if grain fed will cause an actual “reaction” in people who cannot tolerate grains. 

So,  Sara what did you decide to do about your ducks?  In addition to the flax, I read once somewhere about feeding coconut (shredded I'm assuming) to chickens, not sure if that would work for ducks but you could research it.  

Good for you on making those calls and I say keep up the great work!  Let us know how you come out.

Jackie

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Jackie,

I have pondered these questions for many years.  The truth is, no research exists on the topic.  Everything is speculative at this point.  That being said, common sense must prevail.  Animals should be fed what they are designed to eat.

The origin of chickens is the jungle.  Grain seeds, grass, insects, berries, and other forraging type foods are the chicken's native diet.  The closer you can get to this, presumably the healthier the bird will be for you to eat.  That is why free range is so important.  Allowing the bird to hunt and gather its food makes better sense than feeding 100% vegetarian diet of corn and soy. 

Have a great day!

Dr. OLaugh

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Yes, Free-Ranging is the very best!  Poultry can only free-range during the day and are extremely susceptible to predators, so they need to be protected at night in some kind of pen (also in bad weather).  While in the pen they need to eat, so this is when the feed or grains are nessesary.  It is extremely important to give them what they need as close to what they would normally be finding in nature.  Natural oyster shell, grass clippings and weeds are what I use to supplement their diet when in the pen.  My ducks relish good healthy living dirt, they seem to always find something in there, most likely bugs, microbes and other small organisms (somethings they eat the dirt like a fine piece of cheese).  They know instinctivelywhat is good for them, I just have to give them the right environment for them to find what they need to live to their optimum.  When free-ranging I give them lots of sunshine, natural grass and natural clean ground to roam through.

I have heard allot of very negative things about Soy Beans in the diet, they are in most every kind of animal feed.  I am looking into finding a source of Soy-free feed for my ducks.  Can you point me to some sources of information about how important it is to remove Soy from animal feed? 

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