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    Norbert Banaszak jrredbird
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    One big topic lately in the GS/CD field is the issue of cross-reactivity whereby people with GS/CD have false immunity responses to other grains/proteins/molecules that closely resemble the structure of the gluten/gliaden molecules. This is explained by many including our knowledgeable Doctors like Dr. Osborne and some labs. and researchers. Cyrex labs have a #4test panel for a list of items that can cause cross-reactivity and this blood test will inform you of your sensitivities. Enterolab also tests for food sensitivites and cite antigenity responses. Our heightened immunity response because of the gluten/gliaden causes us in some way to react badly to other grains/oats/coffee and many other items. Each person reacts differently and even though many people are dismissing this finding(just like some are dismissing anything but full Celiac Disease) and whether we are somehow “allergic” to other items or “cross-reactive” to proteins similar to gliaden the result is still the same. We won’t be totally healthy until all the offenders are removed! Even though it’s difficult to stop consuming all grains/soy/legumes as suggested the only other sure way is to take all the expensive tests and that still may not answer all the causes of lingering illness. I had written a little on another blog and was informed of a study that showed that corn was safe as long as not cross-contaminated with gluten. Maybe that study was paid for by the Agriculture lobby that is trying to stop a panic and push by the general population against all this dangerous/poisonous food?

    I’ll try to link to a study that claims that corn/maize DOES cause a cross-reaction response in some people and needs to be further investigate by those calling it a safe/alternative grain to wheat? (I’m seeing that we can’t post links on this website??) So just go to Google and type in; “pubmed articles 22298027” and the article; “Maize prolamins resistant to peptic-tryptic digestion maintain immune-recognition by IgA from some celiac disease patients.” should show up. Click on that link and read the report.

    Please relate any research or experiences, I would be glad to check them out and anything is appreciated. I know that Dr. O has the answer to all these problems regardless of the exact cause in each case but the studied causes are helpful when trying to offer proof/study results to my hard-headed relatives and friends. I have a lifelong friend down in Texas that still e-mails me and he was complaining about his Diabetes with numb fingers and toes. I sent him some of this information and links and now total silence?? Strange world with strange people that don’t make rational sense to me. It’s too easy to just eat healthy, take the correct supplements and exercise the proper way and seems a lotta folks just want to be sick and need a reason to whine even if the outcome is disastrous disease? Enough for now, I need to take a deep breath and go work in the garden!Cool

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    Martha SwiftMartha
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    Redbird, I rarely comment, but I wanted you to know that I appreciate your thoughtful and informative posts!

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    Norbert Banaszak jrredbird
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    Thank you, just wanted to share some information on what is being discussed among some researchers and medical experts in this field. Many people are skeptical and are not willing to consider any of this as science until some group of “scientific researchers” perform a study that is reported in a recognized medical journal. The issue of cross-reactivity as regards false immunity response to similar proteins may or may not be a true condition but the theory is fairly new. We have found that we do have a problem with oats and even Elisa certified gluten-free oats. That means there is some kind of reaction taking place that is not gliaden/gluten exposure. Coffee was listed as a possible cross-reactive protein and we quit coffee after nearly 50 years of drinking it daily and now feel better without coffee. Don’t know what’s the issue with coffee but it’s real. I know it’s not advisable to jump on every theory and idea that comes along but finding total health requires experimenting to get rid of offending foods/drinks/medicines/soaps and cosmetics. It can never hurt us to eliminate a possible irritant for a short time to find out if it matters!

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    Roseanne HawkinsRoseanne Hawkins
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    I am new to this forum and delighted to find this pertains to one of my first questions. Why, after a year of eliminating wheat and all the regular “villains”,have I needed to eliminate corn, soy, potatoes, tomatoes… in fact I’m down to rice and steamed veggies now.

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